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I want my laptop back and an explanation ASAP

rickycosgrove
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I want my laptop back and an explanation ASAP

RE: Sony laptop sent back for repair (Case Number: 2303903)

To Whom It May Concern:

Some Background Information:
Around the 21st of December 2006 I purchased a Sony Vaio Laptop C series (VGN-C2Z I think that’s the model number). After a day I noticed a problem with the laptop (the right mouse button on the laptop wasn’t working) and brought the laptop back to where I had purchased it (Sony Store, O Connell St. Limerick, ROI). They gave me a number to contact the repair centre, saying that was all they could do for me. I then contacted the repair centre (early January 2007) they advised me that all I could do was send it back to them which takes 3-5 working days but may be longer. I refused this option as I needed the laptop for work and found a way around the problem by plugging in an external mouse. Since the purchased the laptop a new problem seem to go wrong every couple of weeks, from the speakers not working to USB ports not working – until eventually the hard drive gave way.

Sent It Back For Repairs:
I sent my laptop back to 5-6 weeks ago I don’t have the exact date but I believe it to be either June 21st 2007 or June 28th 2007. Again I was reassured that the turn around are within 3-5 working days.

July 10th/11th (not sure which day)
I ring for an update on my laptop and get told that the mother board has been replaced but the laptop still isn’t working and that an engineer has to see it. I also get advised to push for a new laptop if I haven’t gotten my laptop back by the end of the week.

July 13th
I call to update my delivery address and I ask for a status report – I am waiting for over an hour to get through. The agent assures me he will call me back with an update. He never called me back and I have since found out that he never logged the call.

July 17th
I make another call inquiring about an update and explain that I called Friday and nobody ever got back to me. The lady I talk to apologizes and tells me she will get on this and call me straight back. Again she never called me back and I’ve since found out the call was never logged.

July 19th
I still haven’t received a call back and call again. The first thing I do this time is to ask for the agents’ name. His name is Fabien and he assures me I don’t need to know his second name as everyone there knows him. This call lasts about 20 minutes and I tell him I’m sick of people telling me they’ll call me back and they don’t. I am not happy that it has been nearly a month. I ask to talk to a manager he declines my request. I ask what steps I can take as this matter is unacceptable – he tells me there is none and be patient. He advises me that they (SONY) are still waiting for an engineer to look at my laptop and he will call me back. He still has not called me back but at least he logged the call.

July 30th (Today)
I called again and this time I was talking to Stuart. I asked to speak to Fabien and he would not put me on to him. I again asked to speak to a manager and was told no. Again I got the same 3 comments that I’ve gotten every time I call:

1. Sorry sir there is no record of your calls (apart from Fabiens),
2. We are waiting for a sony technician/engineer to inspect your laptop
3. We will call you back.

This time Stuart did call me back. He told me they are still waiting for an engineer and that’s all he could do. He was extremely rude to me but eventually gave me this e-mail address. This is my last reach out to Sony Vaio, thereafter I will take the matter legal. The two options that I am aware of are:
1. Consult with a solicitor,
2. Bring Sony to small claims court,

I have also been advised to go to local radio stations and newspapers with this,

If someone from Sony were to walk up to me today, laptop in hand I will now no longer accept that. From Sony I need a clear explanation and apology for this whole matter as well as compensation for the phone calls I’ve made to Sony which are now quite considerable. Finally and most obviously I want either my laptop back repaired or a new laptop ASAP.

Below I have quoted the Sale of Goods and Supply of Services Act 1980 which you are in breach of. I should also advice that I now am aware that my contract is with the retailer 1st and the manufacturer 2nd. I find the fact that the only option made to me by the Sony Store was to send my laptop back after 1 day a sham and is also clearly in breach of the below.

Under the Sale of Goods and Supply of Services Act 1980, anything you buy from a retailer must be:

of merchantable quality
fit for its normal purpose, and reasonably durable
as described, whether the description is part of the advertising or wrapping, on a label, or something said by the salesperson.

When you buy goods from a retailer, you make a contract with him. He agrees to provide certain goods to you for a certain price. If your purchase turns out to be faulty, the retailer, not the manufacturer, is responsible to you and must sort out your complaint. You are entitled to a refund, a replacement or a repair.

You do not have to take a credit note if your complaint is covered by the Sale of Goods Act. You can insist on a refund, a replacement or a repair.

If you have a genuine complaint about faulty goods, you can ignore shop notices such as 'No Refunds' or 'No Exchanges'. Such notices cannot take away any of your statutory rights under the Sale of Goods Act see Retailers' responses.

You have no rights under the Sale of Goods Act if you simply change your mind about wanting the goods. You also have no rights if faults are due to misuse of the product after purchase, or if faults should have been obvious or were pointed out at the time of purchase.

The person who purchased the goods holds the rights under the Act. If you receive the goods as a gift, you have no contract with the retailer and don't have the same rights. In practice, most retailers will oblige the user of the goods but this is a gesture of goodwill, not a legal requirement.

Your rights under the Act also apply to goods purchased at sale prices. They must be of merchantable quality, fit for their particular purpose and as described. If goods are being sold as seconds or shop-soiled, however, you cannot expect the same standard.

Second-hand goods

These must also be of merchantable quality but the standards are lower. If you buy something through a private sale, your rights are greatly diminished. Goods do not have to be of merchantable quality, they merely have to be owned by the seller and fit their description. It is up to you to check out the goods before buying.

Services are also covered by the Act. There is a contract between the supplier of a service and the consumer who pays for the service. You are entitled to expect that the supplier:

has the necessary skill to provide the service
provides the service with proper care and diligence
uses sound materials and supplies goods of merchantable quality.
If the service you receive is unsatisfactory in any of these ways, you may be entitled to a remedy or compensation to make up for the difference in value between the service that should have been provided and what was actually provided.

Consumer rights do not always apply in relation to unsatisfactory services. The supplier of the service may limit his responsibility in some way, for example, through an exclusion clause. However, a clause of this kind is only valid if it is specifically brought to the consumer's attention and only if it is fair and reasonable.

Regards,
Ricky Cosgrove

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littlebucko
Visitor

hi m8 sony is the leading maker for laptops
the reason why they put 2x512 in is because if 1 fails the other acts as a backup
but put it this way would you not like to have 1.5gb instead on 1gb as its a little more ram
and much better then a packard bell as they wont work with anything over 1gb

rickycosgrove
Visitor

hi m8 sony is the leading maker for laptops 
the reason why they put 2x512 in is because if 1 fails the other acts as a backup
but put it this way would you not like to have 1.5gb instead on 1gb as its a little more ram
and much better then a packard bell as they wont work with anything over 1gb


Firstly why are you comparing Sony to Packard Bell?
Secondly Sony promised me a 2Gb RAM system - again this is not the case
Thirdly it is cheaper to put 2 * 512Mb chips in a laptop than 1 * 1Gb chip

Finally I love my new non Sony Vaio laptop and will find it hard to trust them again over this mess.

Read back over my first post - specifically looking at dates alone and see what a joke they've made of everything

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kee-lo_
Member

:devil: :devil: :devil: Sorry to hear that Ricky, just seems like it's been a catalogue of blunders, and it's been nearly 3 1/2 months now... I would get back to them (that's if you have the strength!) and tell them you've only been given 1.5GB RAM.

BTW what did you opt for in the meantime?

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jumpsuit
Expert

Sorry to hear that Ricky :slight_frown:

rickycosgrove
Visitor

:devil:  :devil:  :devil: Sorry to hear that Ricky, just seems like it's been a catalogue of blunders, and it's been nearly 3 1/2 months now... I would get back to them (that's if you have the strength!) and tell them you've only been given 1.5GB RAM.

BTW what did you opt for in the meantime?


I was just going to leave it at that - and I still might. I just don't have the time or energy for this, it's almost like that's what Sony - Vaio want.

One thing that I've found weird in my dealings with Caroline is that she always says "i'll call you back" or "you can reach me at support@vaio-link.com", I still have no contact number for anyone. I think I'm going to drop one more e-mail and see where this takes me. My other option is that they now have a legal helpline where I work, available to employees - so I might give them a buzz and discuss my options,

Yes 3 months is a long time

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kee-lo_
Member

You'll find this a norm with a lot of companies, except for DeLL where they put you with one caller, but that's irrelevant.

Addresses like support@vaio-link.com are generic catch-alls that are both inpersonal and usually are picked up by the first person to recieve the message, often there are pools of people working in that office, so it's got a low chance of hitting it's target reciepiant.

Probably going to get another complaint but I would suggest if you feel it's been an unsatisfactory excercise then you should pool your resources - but sadly people like Sony can afford QCs etc quite easily. Still, shouldn't put you off finding out some nuggets from people who do this on a daily basis.

You are right, 3 months = 1/4 of a year, that's 25% of your warranty period down the toilet. I do remember hearing that there's a suitability period where a company has to fix a problem in a set time that's suitable to both parties, might be worth asking.

At least you can now do your job with some sort of notebook.

rickycosgrove
Visitor

Hey Guys,

I had a long think about this and this is what I've decided to do about this as per an e-mail I sent Caroline:

Hi Caroline,

So I finally installed the memory on Monday and again I have encountered another problem.

Within the laptop there are 2 memory slots – each memory slot contained a 512Mb chip – so when I take one 512Mb chip and put in the 1Gb chip that only gives me 1.5Gb of memory and not the 2Gb of memory I was promised. When this was checked with an engineer, surely they might have known this.

At this point I am really fed up with this – I was without a laptop for almost 3 months and it’s been 3 weeks ongoing trying to get what Sony have promised me. I would like this matter escalated and/or would like a direct contact number of a manager or somebody I could talk to about this. I feel I have been extremely patience throughout this but I am now at an end of that patience.

Just to recap on everything:

3 months without a laptop and appalling customer service from the repair centre

A further 3 weeks trying to get my laptop to spec as promised from Sony as an apology for the first 3 months (this is still ongoing)

Numerous promises made and nothing ever delivered on time to spec – even the promises have been iffy at best

Compensation received:

A new unit – which Sony are legally obliged to give me after 28 days away for repair – I received it after 3 months

An upgrade on memory which still has to be fully received

Technically an upgrade on OS from XP to Vista even though XP is the more expensive OS

A promise of one of the following (I thought I was been offered both but the guy who called was very adamant that I could only pick one) which I still haven’t received

A sony walkman (not specifics on which one), or
An extended warranty on my laptop (this one really takes the cake) – sony are offering to fix my laptop for another year if it should break down again

At this stage I am going to contact someone for advice on this matter!!!

amaru007
Visitor

by now i would have asked for some legal advice. you've more or less done everything for them to fix the situation but to no avail.
yo ucould always get yor problem highlighted in a computer mag i suppose, computeractive springs to mind with their legal page. failing that, its lawyer time :devil:

rickycosgrove
Visitor

Just received the 'walkman'. The name is NW-E016f and from what I can make out from the German receipt I received it cost either €77 or €98.35 depending what the german word "Korting" means.
So Sony - Vaio think that €100 worth of Ram and approx €100 of walkman is more than fair compensation for 3 months laptopless.

I have rang a legal line, I got through to English Trading standards and they have directed me to the irish equivilent

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kee-lo_
Member

*sighs heavily* yet again, more let downs... sorry to hear that Ricky, and I hope Ireland's finest will be able to help you get a reasonable solution.

So you're saying that Sony offered you 2GB of RAM for your machine, when in actual fact it's only able to accept 1.5GB on the board?

If that's right then why did they not research this before making an offer?

I'm glad I'm not a CVE now, because I'd be rather disapointed and angry by now and probably would get told that my anger isn't solving anything, which it probably wouldn't, but why can't they just get this right? I know they feel well Ricky's probably lost trust in us so what's the point, but still, it's a paying customer, they need to be treated with a bit more professionalism.

They would have been better off dropping €100 in your account.