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I want my laptop back and an explanation ASAP

rickycosgrove
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I want my laptop back and an explanation ASAP

RE: Sony laptop sent back for repair (Case Number: 2303903)

To Whom It May Concern:

Some Background Information:
Around the 21st of December 2006 I purchased a Sony Vaio Laptop C series (VGN-C2Z I think that’s the model number). After a day I noticed a problem with the laptop (the right mouse button on the laptop wasn’t working) and brought the laptop back to where I had purchased it (Sony Store, O Connell St. Limerick, ROI). They gave me a number to contact the repair centre, saying that was all they could do for me. I then contacted the repair centre (early January 2007) they advised me that all I could do was send it back to them which takes 3-5 working days but may be longer. I refused this option as I needed the laptop for work and found a way around the problem by plugging in an external mouse. Since the purchased the laptop a new problem seem to go wrong every couple of weeks, from the speakers not working to USB ports not working – until eventually the hard drive gave way.

Sent It Back For Repairs:
I sent my laptop back to 5-6 weeks ago I don’t have the exact date but I believe it to be either June 21st 2007 or June 28th 2007. Again I was reassured that the turn around are within 3-5 working days.

July 10th/11th (not sure which day)
I ring for an update on my laptop and get told that the mother board has been replaced but the laptop still isn’t working and that an engineer has to see it. I also get advised to push for a new laptop if I haven’t gotten my laptop back by the end of the week.

July 13th
I call to update my delivery address and I ask for a status report – I am waiting for over an hour to get through. The agent assures me he will call me back with an update. He never called me back and I have since found out that he never logged the call.

July 17th
I make another call inquiring about an update and explain that I called Friday and nobody ever got back to me. The lady I talk to apologizes and tells me she will get on this and call me straight back. Again she never called me back and I’ve since found out the call was never logged.

July 19th
I still haven’t received a call back and call again. The first thing I do this time is to ask for the agents’ name. His name is Fabien and he assures me I don’t need to know his second name as everyone there knows him. This call lasts about 20 minutes and I tell him I’m sick of people telling me they’ll call me back and they don’t. I am not happy that it has been nearly a month. I ask to talk to a manager he declines my request. I ask what steps I can take as this matter is unacceptable – he tells me there is none and be patient. He advises me that they (SONY) are still waiting for an engineer to look at my laptop and he will call me back. He still has not called me back but at least he logged the call.

July 30th (Today)
I called again and this time I was talking to Stuart. I asked to speak to Fabien and he would not put me on to him. I again asked to speak to a manager and was told no. Again I got the same 3 comments that I’ve gotten every time I call:

1. Sorry sir there is no record of your calls (apart from Fabiens),
2. We are waiting for a sony technician/engineer to inspect your laptop
3. We will call you back.

This time Stuart did call me back. He told me they are still waiting for an engineer and that’s all he could do. He was extremely rude to me but eventually gave me this e-mail address. This is my last reach out to Sony Vaio, thereafter I will take the matter legal. The two options that I am aware of are:
1. Consult with a solicitor,
2. Bring Sony to small claims court,

I have also been advised to go to local radio stations and newspapers with this,

If someone from Sony were to walk up to me today, laptop in hand I will now no longer accept that. From Sony I need a clear explanation and apology for this whole matter as well as compensation for the phone calls I’ve made to Sony which are now quite considerable. Finally and most obviously I want either my laptop back repaired or a new laptop ASAP.

Below I have quoted the Sale of Goods and Supply of Services Act 1980 which you are in breach of. I should also advice that I now am aware that my contract is with the retailer 1st and the manufacturer 2nd. I find the fact that the only option made to me by the Sony Store was to send my laptop back after 1 day a sham and is also clearly in breach of the below.

Under the Sale of Goods and Supply of Services Act 1980, anything you buy from a retailer must be:

of merchantable quality
fit for its normal purpose, and reasonably durable
as described, whether the description is part of the advertising or wrapping, on a label, or something said by the salesperson.

When you buy goods from a retailer, you make a contract with him. He agrees to provide certain goods to you for a certain price. If your purchase turns out to be faulty, the retailer, not the manufacturer, is responsible to you and must sort out your complaint. You are entitled to a refund, a replacement or a repair.

You do not have to take a credit note if your complaint is covered by the Sale of Goods Act. You can insist on a refund, a replacement or a repair.

If you have a genuine complaint about faulty goods, you can ignore shop notices such as 'No Refunds' or 'No Exchanges'. Such notices cannot take away any of your statutory rights under the Sale of Goods Act see Retailers' responses.

You have no rights under the Sale of Goods Act if you simply change your mind about wanting the goods. You also have no rights if faults are due to misuse of the product after purchase, or if faults should have been obvious or were pointed out at the time of purchase.

The person who purchased the goods holds the rights under the Act. If you receive the goods as a gift, you have no contract with the retailer and don't have the same rights. In practice, most retailers will oblige the user of the goods but this is a gesture of goodwill, not a legal requirement.

Your rights under the Act also apply to goods purchased at sale prices. They must be of merchantable quality, fit for their particular purpose and as described. If goods are being sold as seconds or shop-soiled, however, you cannot expect the same standard.

Second-hand goods

These must also be of merchantable quality but the standards are lower. If you buy something through a private sale, your rights are greatly diminished. Goods do not have to be of merchantable quality, they merely have to be owned by the seller and fit their description. It is up to you to check out the goods before buying.

Services are also covered by the Act. There is a contract between the supplier of a service and the consumer who pays for the service. You are entitled to expect that the supplier:

has the necessary skill to provide the service
provides the service with proper care and diligence
uses sound materials and supplies goods of merchantable quality.
If the service you receive is unsatisfactory in any of these ways, you may be entitled to a remedy or compensation to make up for the difference in value between the service that should have been provided and what was actually provided.

Consumer rights do not always apply in relation to unsatisfactory services. The supplier of the service may limit his responsibility in some way, for example, through an exclusion clause. However, a clause of this kind is only valid if it is specifically brought to the consumer's attention and only if it is fair and reasonable.

Regards,
Ricky Cosgrove

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rickycosgrove
Visitor

Got a call today from Caroline saying I will have my laptop back no later than Thurs - which obviously I am relieved about.

However I have a new question now:
Caroline first contacted me on Wednesday almost 2 weeks ago and when if I receive the laptop Thursday it would have been an additional 11 working days since she said my problem will be fixed.
Sony guarantee a turn around of 3-5 working days - should I be annoyed at the length of time this has taken or should I just be happy I am getting a new laptop? What would you guys do?

FYI:
With my dealings with Caroline she has seemed polite and professional if a bit evasive when coming to the question "why so long"

Cheers guys

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jumpsuit
Expert

Hi Ricky thats great news.

A slightly longer turnaround I'm afraid happens with other electrical brands too.
I would get the laptop back and check it then decide if you are happy :slight_smile:

rickycosgrove
Visitor

Right got a laptop today.

It is the exact same model and specs as the last one - I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same one. I am expecting a call from Caroline tomorrow but I think I will have to take this further.

It's been near 2 months and after promises etc have been made I get the same laptop back without an apology.

Any advice from here would be appreciated while I figure out my next steps

jonti
Visitor

Hi I have just read the posting on this problem. I am with Kee-Lo on this one. I had a similar problem with an HP printer (don't get me started). After many letters and involvement of Trading Standards they extended the warranty to cover the period I was without the printer. I own about six HP printers but would never buy another one. Is that what Sony want? I have been buying Sony (1 desktop, two laptops, 1 VGN A517S, TV, two cameras etc etc) for almost as long as I was buying HP printers.
Customer service should exceed sales in its responses and quality of service.

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kee-lo_
Member

Hi Jonti,

Thanks for saying that, I thought it was only fair Ricky knew what his options were - and it seems to me that Ricky's probably going to have to use them, which is a real shame as I felt that Sony would have done something.

Seems to me that the chaos has continued and I feel this isn't good for anyone; wouldn't it be better to get it right rather than not at all? I can't see Ricky going to buy a Sony VAIO again, he'll probably feel like "once bitten twice shy", he doesn't want the angst and worry that comes around when you're trying to get a repair or a replacement.

I find it very stressful nowadays to get repairs on products, the only time I seem to have smooth exchanges as it retail outlets but you have to pay more, and this is usually something like DVD (or Doovdés as the Fonejacker would say).

I really hope they sort this out for you Ricky, or you will have to contact Trading Standards, and there's nothing agressive about that, that's what any member of the public would do Europe wide.

Anyway all the best with getting it sorted, I'm monitoring this topic and will comment when I need to.

beckh
Visitor

This is a message for Kee-lo. I am new here but read this thread with interest and some impartiality.

From the way I read it don't think the guy was accusing you of being aggressive personally, only that the solutions were aggressive. They were aggressive solutions - trading standards, citizens advice etc, thats going the legal route which is why they are considered aggressive - not aggressive in the violent sense.

Hope that helps things be a little clearer to the way I saw it as a newbie? There was no way I got the impression that you are aggressive, thats all I am saying. :smileygrin:

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kee-lo_
Member

It was Nico who felt there was a problem with a solution.

What do you expect if you don't get service? Just wait around? People have work to do on their VAIOs, they can't have them away for weeks on end with no response.

I think it's fair enough, you ring any of those radio shows and they'd tell you if you're not getting any joy with the company then you should persue those avenues.

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jumpsuit
Expert

Anyhoo, have you any updates for us Ricky?

rickycosgrove
Visitor

Still no updates - I had a missed call on my phone yesterday telling me they'd call me Monday.

The facts are this to recap:
1. It took 2 months to get my laptop back
2. They promised me a higher spec model and I got the same model - if not the same laptop back
3. I still haven't received an official apology
4. I have received no componsation from all the calls I've had to make to them or the hassle or loss of work due to lack of laptop.

When I talk to Caroline this Monday I will be firm but polite with her and advice her that I am thinking about persuing other options open to me.

If anyone thinks I am been unresonable please say so - or if people have any suggestions that they think I should do or say in this issue I'd very much appreciate the advice.

Once again I'd like to thank every one of you for the advice and help you've given me,

Regards,

Ricky

beckh
Visitor

If you are in the UK, check the law surrounding trading standards. I am certain I read something there a few weeks ago that a repair must not take longer than 28 days.