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I want my laptop back and an explanation ASAP

rickycosgrove
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I want my laptop back and an explanation ASAP

RE: Sony laptop sent back for repair (Case Number: 2303903)

To Whom It May Concern:

Some Background Information:
Around the 21st of December 2006 I purchased a Sony Vaio Laptop C series (VGN-C2Z I think that’s the model number). After a day I noticed a problem with the laptop (the right mouse button on the laptop wasn’t working) and brought the laptop back to where I had purchased it (Sony Store, O Connell St. Limerick, ROI). They gave me a number to contact the repair centre, saying that was all they could do for me. I then contacted the repair centre (early January 2007) they advised me that all I could do was send it back to them which takes 3-5 working days but may be longer. I refused this option as I needed the laptop for work and found a way around the problem by plugging in an external mouse. Since the purchased the laptop a new problem seem to go wrong every couple of weeks, from the speakers not working to USB ports not working – until eventually the hard drive gave way.

Sent It Back For Repairs:
I sent my laptop back to 5-6 weeks ago I don’t have the exact date but I believe it to be either June 21st 2007 or June 28th 2007. Again I was reassured that the turn around are within 3-5 working days.

July 10th/11th (not sure which day)
I ring for an update on my laptop and get told that the mother board has been replaced but the laptop still isn’t working and that an engineer has to see it. I also get advised to push for a new laptop if I haven’t gotten my laptop back by the end of the week.

July 13th
I call to update my delivery address and I ask for a status report – I am waiting for over an hour to get through. The agent assures me he will call me back with an update. He never called me back and I have since found out that he never logged the call.

July 17th
I make another call inquiring about an update and explain that I called Friday and nobody ever got back to me. The lady I talk to apologizes and tells me she will get on this and call me straight back. Again she never called me back and I’ve since found out the call was never logged.

July 19th
I still haven’t received a call back and call again. The first thing I do this time is to ask for the agents’ name. His name is Fabien and he assures me I don’t need to know his second name as everyone there knows him. This call lasts about 20 minutes and I tell him I’m sick of people telling me they’ll call me back and they don’t. I am not happy that it has been nearly a month. I ask to talk to a manager he declines my request. I ask what steps I can take as this matter is unacceptable – he tells me there is none and be patient. He advises me that they (SONY) are still waiting for an engineer to look at my laptop and he will call me back. He still has not called me back but at least he logged the call.

July 30th (Today)
I called again and this time I was talking to Stuart. I asked to speak to Fabien and he would not put me on to him. I again asked to speak to a manager and was told no. Again I got the same 3 comments that I’ve gotten every time I call:

1. Sorry sir there is no record of your calls (apart from Fabiens),
2. We are waiting for a sony technician/engineer to inspect your laptop
3. We will call you back.

This time Stuart did call me back. He told me they are still waiting for an engineer and that’s all he could do. He was extremely rude to me but eventually gave me this e-mail address. This is my last reach out to Sony Vaio, thereafter I will take the matter legal. The two options that I am aware of are:
1. Consult with a solicitor,
2. Bring Sony to small claims court,

I have also been advised to go to local radio stations and newspapers with this,

If someone from Sony were to walk up to me today, laptop in hand I will now no longer accept that. From Sony I need a clear explanation and apology for this whole matter as well as compensation for the phone calls I’ve made to Sony which are now quite considerable. Finally and most obviously I want either my laptop back repaired or a new laptop ASAP.

Below I have quoted the Sale of Goods and Supply of Services Act 1980 which you are in breach of. I should also advice that I now am aware that my contract is with the retailer 1st and the manufacturer 2nd. I find the fact that the only option made to me by the Sony Store was to send my laptop back after 1 day a sham and is also clearly in breach of the below.

Under the Sale of Goods and Supply of Services Act 1980, anything you buy from a retailer must be:

of merchantable quality
fit for its normal purpose, and reasonably durable
as described, whether the description is part of the advertising or wrapping, on a label, or something said by the salesperson.

When you buy goods from a retailer, you make a contract with him. He agrees to provide certain goods to you for a certain price. If your purchase turns out to be faulty, the retailer, not the manufacturer, is responsible to you and must sort out your complaint. You are entitled to a refund, a replacement or a repair.

You do not have to take a credit note if your complaint is covered by the Sale of Goods Act. You can insist on a refund, a replacement or a repair.

If you have a genuine complaint about faulty goods, you can ignore shop notices such as 'No Refunds' or 'No Exchanges'. Such notices cannot take away any of your statutory rights under the Sale of Goods Act see Retailers' responses.

You have no rights under the Sale of Goods Act if you simply change your mind about wanting the goods. You also have no rights if faults are due to misuse of the product after purchase, or if faults should have been obvious or were pointed out at the time of purchase.

The person who purchased the goods holds the rights under the Act. If you receive the goods as a gift, you have no contract with the retailer and don't have the same rights. In practice, most retailers will oblige the user of the goods but this is a gesture of goodwill, not a legal requirement.

Your rights under the Act also apply to goods purchased at sale prices. They must be of merchantable quality, fit for their particular purpose and as described. If goods are being sold as seconds or shop-soiled, however, you cannot expect the same standard.

Second-hand goods

These must also be of merchantable quality but the standards are lower. If you buy something through a private sale, your rights are greatly diminished. Goods do not have to be of merchantable quality, they merely have to be owned by the seller and fit their description. It is up to you to check out the goods before buying.

Services are also covered by the Act. There is a contract between the supplier of a service and the consumer who pays for the service. You are entitled to expect that the supplier:

has the necessary skill to provide the service
provides the service with proper care and diligence
uses sound materials and supplies goods of merchantable quality.
If the service you receive is unsatisfactory in any of these ways, you may be entitled to a remedy or compensation to make up for the difference in value between the service that should have been provided and what was actually provided.

Consumer rights do not always apply in relation to unsatisfactory services. The supplier of the service may limit his responsibility in some way, for example, through an exclusion clause. However, a clause of this kind is only valid if it is specifically brought to the consumer's attention and only if it is fair and reasonable.

Regards,
Ricky Cosgrove

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jumpsuit
Expert

Hi Ricky

Sorry you've had a rough time!

No-one on this forum actually works for Sony, we are all volunteers and Vaiophiles (well most of us :wink: )

I have escalated this to Vaio Link for you.

:slight_smile:

rickycosgrove
Visitor

I was only trying this on the off chance as nobody I have talked to has been forthcoming with any contact details and I can't find any on the net.

Thanks very much for forwarding this on - I appreciate it

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kee-lo_
Member

Hi Ricky,

Wow, what a catalogue of errors there! I'm more than disgusted by it, but like Jumpsuit, I'm only a volunteer - and can't really do much. VAIO-Link have been told, I can asure you that - and no I'm not like them folk at VL not logging your request.

I would have said you either get me a supervisor or I'll contact Trading Standards, that usually gets them moving. Either that or you say you'll call back instantly and report the lack of support.

If this doesn't get resolved I'd be taking my details to what we call the Citizens Advice Bureau, I'm not sure what services they have in Eire.

rickycosgrove
Visitor

At one point I had a stand off on the phone with Fabien for about 6 minutes and I refused to budge until I talked to a supervisor/manager. I told them I would be contacted a solicitor and/or going down a legal route.

Fabien told me there's nobody else there I can talk to and that he would call me back. A big LOL in my opinion.

For the record this was my 3rd and last Vaio purchase. Coincidentatly the hard drive crashed on my other one about 3 months ago and it was 1 month out of warranty. I had sold it on to my brother :slight_smile: who intern sold it on so I didn't really take an issue with this.

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tweety2b
Ex Commander (Was always on)

Hi Ricky,

No need to do all these aggressive suggestions from Kee-Lo. You will contacted by VAIO-LINK soon to get a Quick solution for your problem. I am sorry for all what went wrong. I'll personally watch for it that from now on your case will only be handled by first hand priority.

Kindest regards,
Nico

Nico Henderijckx
(ex-Sony employee - fanboy forever)
rickycosgrove
Visitor

Hi Ricky,

No need to do all these aggressive suggestions from Kee-Lo. You will contacted by VAIO-LINK soon to get a Quick solution for your problem. I am sorry for all what went wrong. I'll personally watch for it that from now on your case will only be handled by first hand priority.

Kindest regards,
Nico


If I am contacted sooner rather than later by someone who can actually help me and give me answers I can't imagine a need for 'aggressive action'. This is of course all conditional on a satisfactory and swift outcome.

Nico thanks for your response but if you do work for Sony-Vaio you'll have to excuse my skepticism as Fabien and others from Sony-Vaio repair center have promised the same. I will stand corrected however and offer an apology if you are the first person from Sony-Vaio that has any idea what they are doing.

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tweety2b
Ex Commander (Was always on)

Point well taken. I made a promise and plan to keep it 😉

Nico Henderijckx
(ex-Sony employee - fanboy forever)
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kee-lo_
Member

Hi Ricky,

I'd like to ask you a few questions, hope you don't mind.

1) Did you think my feedback was agressive?
2) Did I make you angry?
3) Do you feel the response from myself (Kee-Lo) was wrong, and promoted abuse to customer service operators?

I'd like to apoligise if any of those are a yes, I was trying to help you move forward if VL were not helping you.

I'd like to know what you think really, because I don't think I was acting "agressively" and what I said was legitimate and what anyone else would tell you.

I also wish Nico would not undermine my advice in public or he'll find my resignation - it's very impertinant to suggest I'm agressive specially in public.

I'm less than amused really and thought there was better ways to aproach this, but I bet you feel the same way, this should have been sorted months ago (June 07).

I'm sorry if I've upset anyone, but it seems to me whatever I say is not the right thing.

rickycosgrove
Visitor

In response to your questions Kee-Lo

Question 1:
I was quoting tweety2b when I mentioned “aggressive suggestions”, I in no way found your post to be aggressive and I think Sony-Vaio need to get their thumbs out on this case or I will be taking all the steps I can including the options you mentioned to me to get my case resolved.

Question 2:
No – I found your post informative

Question 3:
No – in my opinion they are useless and rude. The fact that I had a 5-10 minute stand off with Fabien asking to speak to a supervisor is ridiculous. If there really is no supervisor with them then they need one, much like a baby needs a nanny IMO. If there is a supervisor with them then Fabien is a liar.

No need to apologise it has been 48 hours since I first posted this and also e-mailed support@vaio-link.com and as of yet no reply. It has been 24 hours since tweety2b said someone will be in touch and as yet nothing. I can’t believe Sony Vaio won an award for their online customer support – as from my experience it does not deserve one.

What I really think is this. Come the end of the week if the ball isn’t moving on this I will have no options left then to pursue the aggression of the legal route. I feel I have extended Sony-Vaio every opportunity to resolve this and feel I have been more than patient. If anyone disagrees could they let me know.

You haven’t upset me and I am glad someone who volunteers’ in support of Sony-Vaio can call a spoon a spoon and give non-biased advice.

Thanks Kee-Lo