topic Re: Android Marshmallow No stamina mode in Z Series

Android Marshmallow No stamina mode

Razorig2 — Wed, 09 Mar 2016 09:44:47 GMT

Since Marshmallow has replaced Stamina mode, can you selectively choose which apps you want to keep running in the background when the screen is off or does doze just disable all background running apps whilst in idle?

I would really like to know this as I only like getting selected app notifications when the screen is off.
Does doze give you the same amount of freedom to selectively choose which apps to keep running in the background?

I'm still waiting for MM but from what I heard there's quite a few problems with it, anyone who has it, any improvements to the camera performance or is it still poor?

Re: Android Marshmallow No stamina mode

adamlee2014 — Wed, 09 Mar 2016 10:33:52 GMT

By default android MM optimizes all apps for battery but you can unselect the ones you don't want it to optimize. I've noticed a huge improvement to the battery life and performance... Opening apps and closing them and generally using the device is very fast. No lag. Looking forward to 6.0.1 to see what else is in store for us.

Re: Android Marshmallow No stamina mode

adamlee2014 — Wed, 09 Mar 2016 10:35:35 GMT

Battery STAMINA Mode has been replaced with Google’s Doze and App Standby?
Battery STAMINA Mode provides a smart solution for managing power consumption, as does the combination of Doze and App Standby - so you can still enjoy using your device for longer with optimised battery life.
Doze intelligently regulates power consumption when the device is in standby, when the screen is off. App Standby further improves battery life by reducing the activity and data access of apps running in the background.
Because of the similarities - and as Doze and App Standby are integrated directly into Android 6.0 - we decided to remove Battery STAMINA Mode in this particular upgrade to ensure users can enjoy the same experience, without compromising on memory or processing power.

Is this the end for Sony’s Battery STAMINA Mode?
We can’t comment on the future of Battery STAMINA Mode, but as we know battery life is one of the major user smartphone pain points, we continue to develop bleeding-edge power consumption and saving solutions

Re: Android Marshmallow No stamina mode

Razorig2 — Wed, 09 Mar 2016 11:06:38 GMT

Cheers, nice to know that we still have the option to choose which apps we want unchecked from Doze, glad to hear it's improved the battery life even more. Looking forward to receiving the update.

Re: Android Marshmallow No stamina mode

coho — Wed, 09 Mar 2016 11:23:29 GMT

No that’s wrong with Doze you have to leave your phone be no touching or moving it I believe it use motion detector for activating doze mode, and it´s google who decides what’s allowed to disturb, you cannot choose which app.

Se here

http://www.androidcentral.com/inside-marshmallow-what-doze-how-do-i-use-it-and-what-does-it-do

For me that’s a big fail and i will not upgrade to MM for now.

/Conny

Re: Android Marshmallow No stamina mode

almirsahbaz — Wed, 09 Mar 2016 12:05:03 GMT

Doze is working only when phone is locked, and screen is off.

But what about battery saving when you're using your phone.

Stamina mode was working really good, and allowed you to save good amount of battery.

I updated my phone yesterday, and only got about 3,5 hour of screen time.

I was able to get 5,5 - 6 hours of screen time with stamina mode on, low battery mode at 20% and queue background data.

Now all of these features are removed completely, and doze doesn't save power consumption when you're actively using your phone on daily basis.

Re: Android Marshmallow No stamina mode

amd_2012 — Wed, 09 Mar 2016 12:36:05 GMT

Hi battery stamina mode not working when you using your phone. its works only if your phone is not working.

Re: Android Marshmallow No stamina mode

Lord_viridis — Wed, 09 Mar 2016 13:23:20 GMT

Wrong.
As well as Doze, the marshmallow update includes battery saver which restricts performance just the same way as stamina mode.
I am getting MUCH better battery life with 6.0

Re: Android Marshmallow No stamina mode

Razorig2 — Wed, 09 Mar 2016 15:14:31 GMT

A lot of for and against claims regarding Stamina mode vs Doze, I'm quite reluctant to update to Marshmallow if people say that the battery is worse and you can't select which apps you want active when Doze is active. However some say Doze is better than Stamina mode, I guess I will have to wait for video review with a versus scenario comparing both Stamina mode and Doze performance.

Re: Android Marshmallow No stamina mode

RobertoDS — Wed, 09 Mar 2016 15:17:57 GMT

Then u can do the same quite thing with Doze

Application - Settings - Avanced - Battery Optimization - Switch to ALL APP and for every app U don't want Doze, you can click on Dont' Optimize and so on viceversa

I can say to have more battery with more apps on the ground

Doze is a Stamina Mode made by Google and so every producer can have it by default without building other battery saver

More or less are the same things

Now is up to Sony how combine two things without having bugs in notifications

Re: Android Marshmallow No stamina mode

Lord_viridis — Wed, 09 Mar 2016 19:45:50 GMT

Mm is much better on battery life IMHO.

Re: Android Marshmallow No stamina mode

Lord_viridis — Wed, 09 Mar 2016 19:47:59 GMT

Just checked,
20% battery left, 5hr15 of screen on.
Heavy browser use, and a mix of 70%WiFi 30% 4G

Re: Android Marshmallow No stamina mode

coho — Wed, 09 Mar 2016 21:01:33 GMT

Well i left a link so people could read for them self what Doze do and don´t, too much work to read it´s okay.

With Stamina you tell which apps can run, use network and give you notification, and when you lock the screen Stamina mode is active regardless of what you do.

With Doze the phone ned to be stationary for about 30 minutes then Doze kicks in and they really mean stationary if you have motion sensor in front like Motorola you have to put it front down, and it´s only apps that use high-priority notifications via Google Cloud Messaging that can give you any notification when the phone is in Doze mode so google is in charge of what can disturb you not you.

You have Battery Optimization and that’s good but we already have that in our phone today.

While Doze and Battery Optimization is a good start, Stamina is miles ahead.

It´s not bad but i like to decide for myself which apps i want to run.

Re: Android Marshmallow No stamina mode

Bhonder — Wed, 09 Mar 2016 22:19:34 GMT

+1 for stamina.

Re: Android Marshmallow No stamina mode

asrujit — Thu, 10 Mar 2016 03:21:07 GMT

Yea stamina mode is better..

Stamina mode has gone after Android 6.0 (Marshmallow) update

leventech — Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:48:17 GMT

I just updated my Xperia Z5 compact with Android 6.0 but Sony's most important function stamina mode has gone, I want my stamina mode back. I have used optimum settings for battery (doze mode), in my opinion the stamina mode has better battery performance, after android 6.0 update the battery drains faster without stamina mode, so Sony, please give me my stamina mode back...

Re: Android Marshmallow No stamina mode

leventech — Thu, 10 Mar 2016 13:51:30 GMT

I agree, in lollipop with stamina mode my phone goes longer battery life with same apps, after marshmallow update battery drains faster and what about ultra stamina mode (7/10 days) vs. doze mode?

Re: Android Marshmallow No stamina mode

kragoth — Fri, 11 Mar 2016 06:11:35 GMT

after 03 day of Mashmallow ;i can confirm stamina mode much better than Doze mode

Re: Stamina mode has gone after Android 6.0 (Marshmallow) update

simon2u — Fri, 11 Mar 2016 13:50:23 GMT

Stamina and Ultra Stamina modes are both missing. These Sony developed power management options are the key reason I purchased Z5 Premium after reading about it in their product guide and videos i.e. 2-day battery life. Defaulting to native Doze mode (as a replacement for Stamina and Ultra Stamina mode) is absolutely unacceptable. Sony must keep its brand promise and product feature claims.

Re: Android Marshmallow No stamina mode

Andrej123 — Fri, 11 Mar 2016 14:28:46 GMT

I get something like 2 h 30 minutes screen on time with Android 6