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SMS problems

Fri, 11 Feb 2011 15:40:45 GMT

HI All,

It appears I cannot send messages over 160 characters. Does anyone have the same problem? I am hearing things about bugs in the Andriod 2.1 update. I have tried differeent SMS products on the market such as Go SMS but I am getting the same issues.

Can anyone help?

Thanks all

Re: SMS problems

Josh — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 15:46:59 GMT

That is not a bug, the 160 characters is the standard world-wide stablished limit for the SMS.

Re: SMS problems

Fri, 11 Feb 2011 15:48:59 GMT

Thanks Josh. ok this is what I was told. Could you confirm if it would convert to MMS? Which I have atetmpted to set up and again still is not working.

Re: SMS problems

Josh — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 15:55:38 GMT

When you are creating a SMS and if you add a picture, sound or video it will become automatically a MMS.

Re: SMS problems

Fri, 11 Feb 2011 16:05:18 GMT

Doesnt make sense to me.

As I understand it text is converted to a MMS after 3 SMS (ie 480 characters). The phone itself displays SMS up to 479 characters then the display changes to MMS. I think this is an issue with 2.1 on Xperia.

Re: SMS problems

Josh — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 16:37:23 GMT

I think you got it wrong there, MMS =Multimedia Messaging Service, meaning a message that not only has text but also a media file on it. Media would be Sound, video or picture. If you keep adding text to an SMS it will still be only a "text" message. Some other phones (not the X10) give you an option that after you have typed 160 characters it allows you to keep writing and divide the messages automatically into 160 characters each. But still these are going to be SMS (text messages) not MMS (picture messages as most people know them).

Re: SMS problems

Fri, 11 Feb 2011 16:45:17 GMT

It is. This point has been brought up several times here, and the reps have repeatedly refused to admit this is an issue with X10. I had to download handcent to work around this issue. I wish the SE-answers team would just tell us the truth, because it is so annoying to see responses like this:

When you are creating a SMS and if you add a picture, sound or video it will become automatically a MMS.

Call me crazy, but I should NOT have to add media to my text message to get it to send just because I typed over 160 characters!!!!! That is the most asenine thing I have ever heard in my life. Adding 161 characters to a text will automatically convert it to MMS if the messaging app is set up correctly. Something SE dropped the ball with again.

Let me give SE a little advice here:

STOP CODING SOFTWARE BECAUSE EVERYTIME YOU DO YOU F*** IT UP. IT WOULD BE BETTER TO SEND OUT A PHONE WITHOUT ANDROID LOADED AT ALL AND INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO FLASH A CUSTOM ROM, THAN DEAL WITH ANY MORE OF SE'S MAJOR SOFTWARE F***-UPS. LEAVE IT TO THE DEV'S AT XDA TO DO IT CORRECTLY!!! AT LEAST THEY CAN GET IT RIGHT.

Re: SMS problems

Josh — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:02:36 GMT

Just to confirm because honestly i was looking for any other phone that converts automatically without any type of custom app, the 161 characters long sms to MMS, can you show me any link that say that is normal on every phone?

Ps, i downloaded the handcent app on my phone and i typed and more than 160 and what it did is separate the messages into 2 SMS messages (not MMS), since i only typed 170 characters.

Re: SMS problems

Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:19:18 GMT

handcent's default setting is to split the message. it can be changed.

Re: SMS problems

Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:23:45 GMT

Re: SMS problems

Josh — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:24:17 GMT

I did noticed that handcent does that (which is pretty useful thanks) and i did mentioned above that the x10 by default doesn't have the option, what i was trying to say though is that even if you go over the 160 characters long it wont automatically convert the SMS into a MMS.

Ps.. On that picture i don't see that it say that it converts the sms to MMS automatically once you typed in more than 160 characters which is the point i was trying to explain. But that is really useful thanks for the info.

Re: SMS problems

Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:28:42 GMT

It does not say it because it is implied. Do you hang a sign in your bathroom telling people to open the toilet lid before using it??? No. It is implied lol

Re: SMS problems

Josh — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:32:41 GMT

Then again it clearly said "Automatically split SMS when its length exceeds 160 characters" it doesn't say "it converts messages over 160 characters into MMS. I would like you to try it on your phone, send a message over 160 characters (your phone should send then 2 messages or more depending on the amount of characters you typed), and let me know if the messages sent are just SMS or MMS. If you can do it and let me know.

Re: SMS problems

Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:45:24 GMT

Re: SMS problems

Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:53:38 GMT

And when I sent it I got a pop-up that said "converting to MMS" I tried to get a screengrab, but it goes away so quickly

Re: SMS problems

Josh — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 18:13:35 GMT

I'm really sorry lightyear0420 that i keep posting back like if im trying to go against of what you are saying (it is not the case) but what i am trying to say is that, Handcent is a "custom app" and by default the stock system on the phone won't convert the sms to MMS when you typed in more than 160 characters, I am not trying to go against you in anyway, but i looked on the Internet and i did not see a phone (looked other brands) that does that automatically if not using a "custom app".

Re: SMS problems

an2ny79 — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 20:08:20 GMT

How many SMS before it convert to MMS? Because mine after 20 sms, it converted to 1 MMS (this is justifyable, who wants to receive 20 chopped sms anyway?)

Anyway, Im using SE's default keyboard to replicate this scenario.

Re: SMS problems

Fri, 11 Feb 2011 20:10:35 GMT

with handcent, 2 sms = 1 mms

Re: SMS problems

an2ny79 — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 20:22:58 GMT

Wow.. that a costly keyboard

With Xperia x2, it doesn't convert SMS to MMS.. I got tired of cutting and pasting using x2 and still SMS.

With Xperia x10 using SE default keyboard, 20 SMS before it convert to MMS..

Re: SMS problems

Sun, 13 Feb 2011 15:49:10 GMT

do you guy know how to input chinese into sms?