topic Rif.: Difference between XH85 and XH91 series ??? in Android TV

Difference between XH85 and XH91 series ???

sonyxh85xh91 — Sun, 17 May 2020 00:05:32 GMT

while looking for a 43" sony, and nearly settling on the 43XH8505, I came across a 43XH9196 which doesn't seem to appear on Sony's websites (other than a minor reference at the top of the XH85 page where 91 is in brackets).

It only appears on Currys websites and the only difference I can find is that Motionflow XR is 1000 Hz as opposed to 800hz.

A different model just for this? Could it be specific to Currys? They have the 8505 model as well for the same price.

thanks!

Rif.: Difference between XH85 and XH91 series ???

rooobb — Sun, 17 May 2020 06:59:15 GMT

Specification are still not available but should be a completely different model spotting FALD VA panel, HDMI 2.1 with 4k@120fps and a renewed Mediatek SoC.

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sonyxh85xh91 — Sun, 17 May 2020 11:20:10 GMT

Thanks Rooobb. I'm note sure though - they are both available now, and the quoted specs on the currys ad are identical barring the 1000 vs 800hz. And same price.

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-and-home-entertainment/televisions/televisions/sony-bravia-kd43xh9196bu-43-smart-4k-ultra-hd-hdr-led-tv-with-google-assistant-10206625-pdt.html

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-and-home-entertainment/televisions/televisions/sony-bravia-kd43xh8505bu-43-smart-4k-ultra-hd-hdr-led-tv-with-google-assistant-10205782-pdt.html

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LightFoot — Sun, 17 May 2020 12:30:02 GMT

Hi @sonyxh85xh91 Without the full specifications it is impossible to say. But in general terms the 8 series usually have an ISP panel and the 9 series have a VA panel. The VA panel is far superior with blacker blacks etc. Also the higher the number the better/newer the components. To me it is a no brainier, take the 91.

https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/c5de1e0b

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sonyxh85xh91 — Sun, 17 May 2020 12:45:09 GMT

Thanks SonyUser30Yrs.

Yes, seems to make sense alright, but I am in Ireland and Curry's IE don't yet have the euro equivalent of £100 off offer yet so I will have to wait. Knowing my luck, the offer will go, or Currys will realise that the 9 model should be dearer! It's funny though that Sony don't have this 9 model specified other than a minor reference on the 8 series page.

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grumbirky — Tue, 19 May 2020 06:25:26 GMT

Hello! I’ve been trying to find this too, I even asked Sony on Twitter, but they came back comparing the XH85 to the XH81.. Only thing I’ve found is that both models share the same manual: https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/res/manuals/5014/3fbfb4b5a891732284513072bd54ad36/50148131M.pdf

I wonder whether it’s one of those Curry’s only things but they’ve marked the price wrong or something..

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sonyxh85xh91 — Tue, 19 May 2020 08:18:55 GMT

Sony told me the model was not out yet (after trying to insist I was talking
about the 8196 model rather than 9196).

I rang Currys Uk and they said they had it in stock, but they don’t deliver
to Ireland and the Currys IE site doesn’t have the £100 offer.

In the end I purchased the 8505 model in Ireland with the £100 off – total
of £849 which is as good as I think will be got right now.

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grumbirky — Wed, 20 May 2020 11:45:17 GMT

I had a response from Sony:

Sorry for the confusion. After further checks, we can confirm that the HX9196 is a Currys's exclusive model, which is why it doesn't appear on our website. The only difference is indeed related to MotionFlow as you mentioned earlier.

So you’re not missing much with the XH85, especially if you turn MotionFlow off. Enjoy!

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sonyxh85xh91 — Wed, 20 May 2020 11:48:59 GMT

Yep, not concerned. At least Sony finally accept the other model exists!

Not even sure where Motionflow is needed to be honest, but I suspect I won't notice the difference between 800 and 1000 anyway!

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neilwatts13 — Fri, 22 May 2020 10:56:36 GMT

I have the XH8505 and it's night and day compared to its older XF8505 sibling. Few things that stand out....

- Boots from Power Off in around quarter of the time

- Remote control isn't buggy as hell

- Apps load way faster

- Apple Airplay support

- eARC port (can finally output proper Atmos sound, etc)

- Even though it's still a fairly standard edge lit panel, I find the clarity and colour is waaay better (with Dolby Vision support too)

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neilwatts13 — Fri, 22 May 2020 10:59:12 GMT

** One issue I am having is corrupt sound every now and then (to Sony ZF9 sound bar with wireless rears). It distorts sound from any source and I have to power cycle the tv to fix it.

Should probably inform Sony of this - Is there somewhere I can submit a bug without going through the ridiculous customer support "Have you tried turning it on and off again" route?

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sonyxh85xh91 — Fri, 22 May 2020 13:09:28 GMT

Appreciate any recommendations on whether this unit (I have received but not opened yet!) needs a soundbar, and if so, what recommendations you might have (I'm not an audiophile, just want clear dialogue in movies etc, which tv's these days are somewhat poor on). Thanks.

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stewartgordon4 — Fri, 22 May 2020 13:16:55 GMT

IF YOU NEED A SOUNDBAR I WOULD GO FOR A YAMAHA

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grumbirky — Sun, 24 May 2020 10:18:12 GMT

I tried to see if I could get by without a sound bar, but no, especially with films. Watching Star Wars in 4K Dolby Vision with default sound? No. I’ve only got a CT180 but makes such a difference.

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kkqd1337 — Tue, 26 May 2020 14:04:08 GMT

also.

What is the difference between the XH85 and the XH80, and for that matter the XH81 as well.

Very confusing.

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rooobb — Tue, 26 May 2020 14:43:14 GMT

Have fun https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/comparison/8e1a114f19

basically XH80/XH81 are identical apart some aesthetic, XH85 is a 100Hz panel

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kkqd1337 — Tue, 26 May 2020 15:00:31 GMT

thats thats really useful.

and as I understand it, unless you play video games 100hz is of no value to TV/Movie experience?

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rooobb — Tue, 26 May 2020 15:57:00 GMT

And for fast moving sport with Motionflow engaged. On a movie (often at 24fps) it is enough a 50/60 Hz panel. All of them are IPS type panel, to have a VA one you should go to XH90 and above

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Bydandie — Thu, 11 Feb 2021 19:18:14 GMT

Except the 49XH8505 is VA?

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rooobb — Fri, 12 Feb 2021 12:03:34 GMT

So it seems looking at displayspecification.com , but we were talking about 43"