topic Re: HDR Game Mode in Android TV

HDR Game Mode

cyberpunksprite — Tue, 08 Nov 2016 20:08:00 GMT

Quick question regarding HDR and gaming on my screen. After the new update I still don't see a specific HDR Gaming mode and the screen still automatically goes to HDR Video.

Can I still use HDR Video for playing the games? I was thinking that if I removed processing such as smothing, reality creation etc. that potential latency would be reduced - in essence match the processing settings in the normal game mode.

Am I right in thinking this?

Re: HDR Game Mode

Zach_N85 — Tue, 08 Nov 2016 20:12:29 GMT

@gmorgan09 wrote:

On my 75x94C, HDR game mode does not activate, only has HDR Video, anyone else???????

I believe you're meant to do it as following:

1. Change the TV to Game Mode

2. Activate an HDR game

The Picture Mode should then change to HDR (Game), then you can disable Motionflow/Cinemotion to reduce the input lag.

Re: HDR Game Mode

gmorgan09 — Tue, 08 Nov 2016 20:12:51 GMT

It only changes to HDR Video and not HDR Game.... Surely this is a bug angain in the firmware

Re: HDR Game Mode

cyberpunksprite — Tue, 08 Nov 2016 20:13:16 GMT

I am facing the same.

55 8509C and when trying a HDR game on either the PS4 or XBO S it switches to HDR Video which is what it did prior to the update. I just updated the screen via the TV update facility and it shows the correct firmware number.

Re: HDR Game Mode

Anonymous — Tue, 08 Nov 2016 20:13:39 GMT

Hi all

HDR/Game Mode - I will clarrify this with Sony, but I have seen this article HERE, which states:

Sony offers a HDR game mode on its Z9D / ZD9 flagship TV but other 2016 and all 2015 TVs have so far offered a game mode only for non-HDR games.

With the new software (version 3.533) Sony is addressing the issue for most 2016 and 2015 4K HDR TVs by allowing you to engage the game mode while enjoying HDR. The update is available for the following models: X85C, S85C, X91C, X90C, X93C, X94C, SD85, XD85, XD94 & XD93.

To be honest, I dont really understand it myself.

Cheers

Re: HDR Game Mode

cyberpunksprite — Tue, 08 Nov 2016 20:14:01 GMT

It is a bit confusing as the update reads as if sets such as mine (kd55x8509C) now have a HDR Game mode.

The timing of making this feature makes sense with Sony launching the PS4 Pro this week.

Re: HDR Game Mode

Anonymous — Tue, 08 Nov 2016 20:14:26 GMT

@cyberpunksprite - I know, im scratching my head too

Re: HDR Game Mode

Anonymous — Tue, 08 Nov 2016 20:09:35 GMT

Hi there

If you dont mind, ive changed to title to this thread slightly in order to make it more generic (away from a specific model) and turn this into a master thread about this HDR Game mode.

Cheers

Re: HDR Game Mode

cyberpunksprite — Tue, 08 Nov 2016 20:21:04 GMT

No problem.

It will be effecting owners of different models from mine.

/continues to scratch head.

Maybe it is an issue with the firmware.

Re: HDR Game Mode

gmorgan09 — Tue, 08 Nov 2016 20:39:45 GMT

It's not working as it's meant to, there is definately no HDR Game Mode in the update. As the above link states the ZD9 has a specific HDR Game mode, this 355 update should have enabled the same feature. I submitted the issue to Sony Support.

This update got me quite excited, more so than the juddering fix as many PS4 HDR updates have arrived this week and I can notice the lag when in HDR video mode as opposed to standard game mode.

Re: HDR Game Mode

cyberpunksprite — Tue, 08 Nov 2016 21:39:31 GMT

I've also submitted a ticket to the support. HDR Game mode is not working.

Re: HDR Game Mode

RoberMC — Wed, 09 Nov 2016 19:52:17 GMT

X85C here, HDR Game mode not visible anywhere. The TV enters automatically in "HDR Video" profile with some settings forced in "auto" and some others like "movie mode" forced in "high", among other settings that can be changed but revert back to default as soon as you change them. thanks god it at least allow disabling MotionFlow.

I don't get why it is so difficult for Sony to properly fix this, and once they are at it, fix all obvious bugs in image settings menu, for example, those options that allow adjusting in "HDR Video" mode that have no effect and reset to default by themselves.

Re: HDR Game Mode

Unicronic — Thu, 10 Nov 2016 05:53:45 GMT

I've been digging into this topic for the last week.

HDR gaming mode doesn't work even under the latest firmware release.

Either Sony's new firmware doesn't do the trick or they're planning on keeping HDR gaming mode in their Z series which are 65inches+ and a hefty price only.

LG are under similar pressure as their gaming features are lacking.

Re: HDR Game Mode

Anonymous — Thu, 10 Nov 2016 13:39:23 GMT

Hi All

Sony has suggested that you enable the HDR option on the PS4.

Does anyone know of any good (free) games that are available that are HDR that I can test with? Its been a while since Ive looked at my PS4, so im a little behind on whats available.

Cheers

Re: HDR Game Mode

RoberMC — Thu, 10 Nov 2016 17:41:27 GMT

So... HDR game mode in their TVs only works if you use it in conjunction with a PS4 and not other consoles with HDR enabled?

What a nonsense, and a typical answer from Sony!

Obviously everyone here have their consoles correctly configured because our TVs switches and locks on "HDR Video" profile, but the problem is that "HDR Game" profile is nowhere to be seen. If you do not enable HDR on your console the TV stays in whatever profile you were using (Game mode preferably)

Re: HDR Game Mode

yautjawarrior — Thu, 10 Nov 2016 17:50:19 GMT

Just seen this on Trusted Reviews.

UPDATE 10/11: Sony has clarified that the update reduces the amount of input lag on the 2015 and 2016 TVs when in HDR mode.

Input lag in general is reduced across all sources as a result, but the update does not add a specific HDR Game preset to the TVs.

Re: HDR Game Mode

Anonymous — Thu, 10 Nov 2016 18:25:40 GMT

Hi All

Yes @yautjawarrior is correct (beat me to it). After feedback submitted from here, some websites have now been corrected in regards to some mis-information.

This is from:

http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/sony-tv-update-fixes-hdr-gaming-input-lag-problem

UPDATE 10/11: Sony has clarified that the update reduces the amount of input lag on the 2015 and 2016 TVs when in HDR mode.

Input lag in general is reduced across all sources as a result, but the update does not add a specific HDR Game preset to the TVs.

So there is NO specific game mode in regards to HDR on the TV. As I have posted above, HDR needs to be set to "Automatic" in the PS4's Video Output settings.

Thanks all.

Re: HDR Game Mode

RoberMC — Thu, 10 Nov 2016 18:38:08 GMT

So when i want to see a UHD HDR movie i have to go to image settings, enable MotionFlow, Movie Mode, and all that stuff i like, and when i want to play a HDR game, i have to disable them manually.

Nice approach Sony!, it looks like this TVs do not have 4kb available to introduce a new image settings profile, or their heads would explode if they think in a console capable of playing UHD HDR Blu-Ray and HDR gaming using the same HDMI input of the TV.

Re: HDR Game Mode

Daytona900 — Sun, 08 Apr 2018 17:42:07 GMT

The best work around for this for the moment even before the latest update is as follows and it works for me on my 2015 55" x9305c.

before you launch a HDR game on any console and you want to swith off all motion enhancement to reduce input lag, all you have to do is change the picture setting to HDR Video from game ( the colours will look wrong but will correct one game is launched) then go down to the motion setting and turn every thing off and adjust other setting to your preferance. then when you go back to game mode or launch a game from there HDR Video will remain locked to your previous settings. you will thenl have to change things back for movies till sony wake up and fix this. works with XBOX X PS4 Pro and 4k Blueray.

Hope this helps for now.